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won’t beat 7800X3D in gaming

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won’t beat 7800X3D in gaming

Intel has launched its new Core Ultra 200V “Lunar Lake” series processors, and the new Lunar Lake-based laptops won’t hit the market until September 27. Now we have simulated benchmark results for Intel’s next-generation desktop processors: Arrow Lake.

The new “Arrow Lake” Core Ultra 200 series (200 series = desktop, while 200V series = laptop) was put through a “simulated” benchmark by leaker Moore’s Law is Dead. These numbers from the Core Ultra 9 285K are the best, with a perfect IPC improvement over Raptor Lake, and it beats the Core i9-14900K but loses to the Ryzen 7 7800X3D with the new EXPO update. MLID is assuming 5.4GHz for the 9800X3D (assuming a 2% IPC increase in gaming), while it’s ideal at 5.7GHz and a “perfect IPC increase in gaming” for the Core Ultra 9 285K chip.

In some simulated benchmarks of the upcoming Intel Core Ultra 9 285K processor against the upcoming AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor, the new Arrow Lake-S desktop processor loses to the Zen 4-based Ryzen 7 7800X3D, and loses to the Zen 5-based Ryzen 7 9800X3D by an even larger margin.

An MLID source, who usually speaks negatively about Arrow Lake when talking to Tom, said:Arrow Lake is doing a bit better than I expected, but I maintain that it is unlikely to beat the R7 9800X3D in gaming by any significant margin, if at all. Right now it sounds like the marketing is claiming a 15+ IPC increase, but it is not expected to translate perfectly into a 15% increase in gaming, and there is a regression in clock speed from RPL“.

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What to expect from the new Intel Core Ultra 200 series “Arrow Lake” desktop processors:

  • New LGA 1851 socket, 800 series chipset:Intel will introduce a new LGA 1851 socket for Arrow Lake processors, replacing the current LGA 1700 socket. The new socket includes a new chipset, and the 800-series will be introduced to support the 200-series “Arrow Lake” Core Ultra processors, with the flagship Z890 leading the way.
  • New Core Ultra branding from Core i3 etc.:Intel’s current fleet of desktop processors are still branded as “Core”, like the Core i3, Core i5, etc. The introduction of Arrow Lake means that Intel is changing its desktop processor branding system to align with its mobile offerings, so the new Arrow Lake processors are branded as “Core Ultra 200 series”. The new flagship processor is the Core Ultra 9 285K, not the Core i9-14900K.
  • DDR5 Memory ONLY with New Arrow Lake Processors:The last few generations of Intel Core processors supported DDR5, but they also supported DDR4 memory with various motherboards offering DDR4 support. As of this point, Intel only supports DDR5 with Arrow Lake, so you’ll need a new processor, a new motherboard, and if you don’t already have DDR5, you’ll need new DDR5 memory.
  • New Lion Core P-Cores, Skymont E-Cores:Arrow Lake will use the same improved P-Cores and E-Cores architectures as Lunar Lake: the new Lion Core P-Cores and Skymont E-Cores will deliver IPC improvements for both performance and efficiency cores.
  • No Hyper-Threading support:Intel completely abandons Hyper-Threading in Arrow Lake, shipping without any HT support. P-Cores, E-Cores, no HT.
  • Thunderbolt 5 support:Intel to introduce Thunderbolt 5 technology to desktops with new Arrow Lake processors, enabling up to 120Gbps throughput, up to 240W charging, support for 540Hz displays, support for 3 4K displays all at 144Hz, and more.
  • Slower CPU Boost clock speed:Intel is increasing the clock speed of its flagship Core i9-14900KS processor to 6.2GHz (6200MHz), but we can expect IPC improvements with the new Lion Cove P-cores that will help it achieve high performance but at lower frequencies of 5.8GHz (5800MHz).

Intel Arrow Lake-S Desktop Processor Features and Support:

  • Planned lifespan of LGA 1851 socket until 2026
  • Only DDR5 compatible, no DDR4 support
  • Starts with 800 series motherboards
  • Memory support up to DDR5-6400 (JEDEC native)
  • Increased PCIe Gen 5.0 lanes through CPU and PCH
  • Arrow Lake-S First Supported Desktop Family (DIY)
  • Arrow Lake-S processors have 3MB of L2 cache per P core
  • Arrow Lake-S processors feature Alchemist iGPUs
  • Arrow Lake-S processors come in 8+16, 6+8 processor SKUs
  • Arrow Lake-S 8+16 (24 cores)
  • Arrow Lake-S 6+8 (14 cores)
  • No Hyper-Threading support
  • Market launch in the second half of 2024.